Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/03/2004 03:30 PM Senate RES

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           SB 339-MINING RECLAMATION ASSURANCES/FUND                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR  THOMAS  WAGONER  announced  SB  339  to  be  up  for                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOB LOEFFLER,  Director, Division of Mining,  Land and Water,                                                               
Department of  Natural Resources (DNR),  said that SB  339 brings                                                               
DNR's  reclamation bonding  program  into the  era  of the  large                                                               
mines like Fort  Knox, True North, and in the  future, Donlin. He                                                               
asked to  spend a minute  on reclamation,  a minute on  a problem                                                               
with existing  law and  then explain the  three major  changes in                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Before a mine  begins, DNR requires a reclamation bond  so if the                                                               
company defaults,  the bond  can be seized  to reclaim  the mine.                                                               
The law  went into  effect in  1991 when  Alaska had  only placer                                                               
mines. Since  then, a number  of large mines have  been developed                                                               
and the current  bonding program that has worked so  well for the                                                               
placer mining  industry needs some updating  to accommodate large                                                               
mines.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The three  changes SB 339  makes are  first, it expands  the $750                                                               
cap for large mines. Placer mines  currently have a $750 per acre                                                               
cap, but  it costs  large mines  much more  than that  to reclaim                                                               
land.  Greens Creek  and Pogo  have $24  million and  $26 million                                                               
bonds,  for instance.  Companies thus  far have  been voluntarily                                                               
putting up a  bigger bond. SB 339 removes the  $750 cap for large                                                               
mines, but  keeps the program  working as it has  for exploration                                                               
and placer mines.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The  second change  expands the  suite  of financial  instruments                                                               
that  companies can  use to  satisfy the  bonding requirement  to                                                               
include CDs, cash, surety insurance and things like that.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The third  change establishes  a mine  reclamation trust  fund, a                                                               
voluntary alternate  method to meet bonding  requirements. A mine                                                               
company  would provide  money to  the state  that would  hold the                                                               
money for  the reclamation. The  fund builds interest  that would                                                               
not be taxed (since the state government is not taxed).                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The advantages  to the state  are twofold. One  is that                                                                    
     it provides  a mechanism  for us  to bond  long-term or                                                                    
     perpetual reclamation  needs. So,  for example,  if Red                                                                    
     Dog  Mine,  as expected,  is  going  to need  perpetual                                                                    
     water  quality  treatment,   that  is  water  treatment                                                                    
     forever, to satisfy  that with a bond, you  need a bond                                                                    
     that  retains  the  interest,  a  mini-permanent  fund.                                                                    
     Illinois   Creek  is   going  to   need  30   years  of                                                                    
     monitoring.  That's  a  much smaller  bond  if  we  can                                                                    
     retain the interest. So, for  the state, it provides us                                                                    
     a  way  to  accommodate   the  perpetual  or  long-term                                                                    
     reclamation needs,  a situation  we only have  with the                                                                    
     large mines, not the placer industries.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The second advantage  is one Mom always told  me - cash                                                                    
     is best. Someone has got to  put up a bond. If they can                                                                    
     give us cash,  that is, in fact, the  best security for                                                                    
     the state. The advantages  to the company are two-fold.                                                                    
     First, if  the state holds the  reclamation trust fund,                                                                    
     then, in fact, the interest  is tax free, because we're                                                                    
     not a  taxable entity.  So, there's some  advantages to                                                                    
     the company for the state actually holding it.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     A  typical  use  might  be... if  you  have  a  30-year                                                                    
     mine... as the mine gets  closer and closer to closure,                                                                    
     they may be  putting more and more money  in this trust                                                                    
     fund if they should decide to use it....                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICH  HEIG, President, Council  of Alaska Producers,  said he                                                               
is  also general  manager  of Greens  Creek  Mining Company.  The                                                               
Producers'  Council supported  SB  339 because  it makes  several                                                               
important changes  to the requirements for  bonding and financial                                                               
insurance  for   mining  operations.  It  allows   the  state  to                                                               
recognize  the higher  reclamation  requirements associated  with                                                               
hard rock mining operations as  compared to placer operations and                                                               
supports what DNR  and DEC have been requiring  for several years                                                               
anyway. It  recognizes the  needs for  companies to  have several                                                               
methods available to them for  providing financial assurances for                                                               
reclamation enclosure  that Mr.  Loeffler has outlined.  The cost                                                               
and availability of  conventional bonds or letters  of credit are                                                               
becoming much more difficult and  this bill would allow for other                                                               
means  of   financial  assurance  including  CDs   and  corporate                                                               
guarantees.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEVE BORELL, Executive  Director, Alaska Miners Association,                                                               
supported SB  339 because it  makes several important  changes to                                                               
the  requirements   for  bonding   and  financial   insurance  as                                                               
described by Mr. Loeffler.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GEORGIANNA  LINCOLN asked if  the trust fund  money would                                                               
be dedicated to the reclamation  or would the Legislature somehow                                                               
have access to the cash and be able to use it elsewhere.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOEFFLER replied  that the Department of Law  has agreed with                                                               
him  that the  Legislature could  never fully  be prevented  from                                                               
doing anything. "I can't bind  the hands of future legislators no                                                               
matter what  my wish is." The  way SB 339 is  crafted, a contract                                                               
or memorandum  of understanding (MOU)  would be agreed  upon with                                                               
the company. If  the Legislature reappropriated the  money out of                                                               
the fund, the company would have  a legal cause of action against                                                               
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LINCOLN  asked if  the company goes  out of  business and                                                               
the reclamation  hasn't occurred,  would anyone  have a  cause of                                                               
action.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOEFFLER replied  if it's on state land, maybe  no one would,                                                               
but if  it's on  private land,  like Red Dog,  NANA would  have a                                                               
cause of action.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     In  general, this  is one  of our  only methods  of, in                                                                    
     fact, insuring long-term  or perpetual reclamation, but                                                                    
     again,   it   doesn't   bind  the   hands   of   future                                                                    
     legislatures.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  LINCOLN said  that she  likes the  bill, but  she didn't                                                               
want the Legislature to get its  hands on this money if there's a                                                               
way to prevent that.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  moved to  pass SB  339 out  of committee  with the                                                               
accompanying  zero fiscal  note  and individual  recommendations.                                                               
There were no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                 

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